pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

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pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nirmal on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:51:39 GMT

Ive experienced this bug ever since ive started using alchemy since 007.1,but somehow I keeps recurring in the next release.The pressure shapes module never reads the pressure from my pen tablet but draws just a solid line defined by the line thickness I set
here's a snap of it

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Plus I never get the option to separate the toolbar from the tops as stated in the app features( i dont see the little button in the corner like im supposed to)

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Im not sure if a work around has been posted for it, the one i came across was for mac
I use Windows vista Sp2 Ultimate X64 with the latest java installed
I use an Iball pentablet (local stuff but it does the job,works fine in photoshop)
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nirmal on Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:53:48 GMT

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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby ncls on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:41:14 GMT

The pressure shapes module never reads the pressure from my pen tablet but draws just a solid line defined by the line thickness I set


Did you try using the parameter "-Djava.library.path" to launch the application, like :

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java -Djava.library.path=lib -jar Alchemy.jar
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nirmal on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:07:08 GMT

Hey thanks for replying,
No I haven't tried tinkering with any of the code... Java script is like an alien language to me...I don't know where to even type it
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Karl DD on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:16:35 GMT

Hi,

Can you download the debug version, run it, and let me know what it says in the console:
http://al.chemy.org/files/Alchemy-008-Debug.zip

Also, can you download JPEN (the pen library Alchemy uses):
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jpen/
and see if that works for you.

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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby crowline on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:55:32 GMT

my wacom (Intuos 3) pressure sensitivity doesnt work either.

I am using ubuntu linux and KNOW there are issues with my wacom setup... but the pressure sensitivity DOES work in mypaint.

I downloaded and ran jpen, pressure sensitivity did not work there, it regestered 0 pressure when the pen wasnt touching and .5 pressurewhen it was - no matter how much actual pressure was used. it showed left click and pressure click boxes engaged when the pen was down.
you can view my alchemy sketches here > sketches/topic433.html#p1712
or go to my website > http://www.crowlinestudio.com
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Karl DD on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:39:46 GMT

Ok,

You might want to pop over to the JPEN forum and post there, hopefully they can help out.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jpen/fo ... rum/753961

If you can get pressure working with JPEN it should work in Alchemy.

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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nirmal on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:48:24 GMT

@crowline:
I had the same issue in jpen,but it got resolved when I noticed The '3 buttons stylus pen (pressure)' under the input devices tab was set to cursor and switched it to stylus,after that it read the pressure beautifuly,maybe this is the same issue in alchemy where the setting have to be changed in a similar way (thought for Karl)

@Karl:
As I mentioned above the pressure from the stylus was read without issues after that change in the setting for jpen,right now I have an issue downloading the debug alchemy version,I think is a problem on my side, I'l get back to you as soon as I've resolved this somehow.Ive also noticed the detach button on the toolbar has mysteriously started to display after a recent theme change on my desktop, funny how the system works sometimes. Thanks so much for your time Karl
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nirmal on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:22:09 GMT

OK THIS IS WHAT I'VE GOT IN THE ALCHEMY CONSOLE:

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Feb 9, 2010 11:50:12 AM org.java.plugin.registry.xml.ManifestParser <init>
INFO: got SAX parser factory - com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.jaxp.SAXParser
FactoryImpl@a995a79
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:12 AM org.java.plugin.registry.xml.PluginRegistryImpl configur
e
INFO: configured, stopOnError=false, isValidating=true
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.registry.xml.PluginRegistryImpl register

INFO: plug-in and fragment descriptors registered - 25
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.core@1.0.5 (active/total: 1 of 25)
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.smooth@1.0.0 (active/total: 2 of 25)
org.alchemy.affect.smooth
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.gradient@1.0.1 (active/total: 3 of 25
)
org.alchemy.affect.gradient
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.limit@1.0.0 (active/total: 4 of 25)
org.alchemy.affect.limit
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.blindness@1.0.6 (active/total: 5 of 2
5)
org.alchemy.affect.blindness
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.mirror@1.0.11 (active/total: 6 of 25)

org.alchemy.affect.mirror
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.colorSwitcher@1.0.5 (active/total: 7
of 25)
org.alchemy.affect.colorSwitcher
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.displace@1.0.5 (active/total: 8 of 25
)
org.alchemy.affect.displace
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.micExpand@1.0.7 (active/total: 9 of 2
5)
org.alchemy.affect.micExpand
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.repeat@1.0.6 (active/total: 10 of 25)

org.alchemy.affect.repeat
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.affect.random@1.0.6 (active/total: 11 of 25)

org.alchemy.affect.random
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.scrawlShapes@1.0.4 (active/total: 12
of 25)
org.alchemy.create.scrawlShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.pressureShapes@1.0.1 (active/total: 1
3 of 25)
org.alchemy.create.pressureShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.ribbonShapes@1.0.0 (active/total: 14
of 25)
org.alchemy.create.ribbonShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.pullShapes@1.0.2 (active/total: 15 of
25)
org.alchemy.create.pullShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.splatterShapes@1.0.0 (active/total: 1
6 of 25)
org.alchemy.create.splatterShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.xShapes@1.0.5 (active/total: 17 of 25
)
org.alchemy.create.xShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.medianShapes@1.0.6 (active/total: 18
of 25)
org.alchemy.create.medianShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.inverseShapes@1.0.6 (active/total: 19
of 25)
org.alchemy.create.inverseShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.shapes@1.0.11 (active/total: 20 of 25
)
org.alchemy.create.shapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.typeShapes@1.0.9 (active/total: 21 of
25)
org.alchemy.create.typeShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.micShapes@1.0.6 (active/total: 22 of
25)
org.alchemy.create.micShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.speedShapes@1.0.5 (active/total: 23 o
f 25)
org.alchemy.create.speedShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.traceShapes@1.0.6 (active/total: 24 o
f 25)
org.alchemy.create.traceShapes
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM org.java.plugin.standard.StandardPluginManager activateP
lugin
INFO: plug-in started - org.alchemy.create.detachShapes@1.0.4 (active/total: 25
of 25)
org.alchemy.create.detachShapes
Number of Plugins: 24
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: loading JNI library: jpen-2-2-64 ...
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: jpen-2-2-64 loaded
Java Version: 1.6.0_18
Platform: Windows Vista
OS Version: 6.0
Architecture: amd64
Language: en
Country: US


AND THE JPEN STATUS REPORT

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===== JPen - Status Report =====
JPen Version: 2-100121
Date: Tue Feb 09 15:05:21 IST 2010
Providers:
   Constructor: System
      Construction Exception: none
      Device (System Mouse): Mouse (Mouse@System)
         Enabled: true
         Kind: (type=CURSOR)
   Constructor: JPen
      Construction Exception: none
      Device: Emulation (Emulation@JPen)
         Enabled: true
         Kind: (type=IGNORE)
   Constructor: Wintab
      Construction Exception: none
      Native Version-Build(Expected): 2-364(364)
      Device: 3 Buttons Stylus Pen (Pressure) (0.0@Wintab)
         Enabled: true
         Kind: (type=STYLUS)
System Properties:
   awt.toolkit: sun.awt.windows.WToolkit
   file.encoding: Cp1252
   file.encoding.pkg: sun.io
   file.separator: \
   java.awt.graphicsenv: sun.awt.Win32GraphicsEnvironment
   java.awt.printerjob: sun.awt.windows.WPrinterJob
   java.class.path: C:\Users\Niru\Desktop\jpen-2-100121-lib\jpen-2-100121\jpen-2.jar
   java.class.version: 50.0
   java.endorsed.dirs: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\endorsed
   java.ext.dirs: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\ext;C:\Windows\Sun\Java\lib\ext
   java.home: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6
   java.library.path: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin;.;C:\Windows\Sun\Java\bin;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\backburner 2\;D:\Program Files (x86)\Autodesk\Backburner\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\;D:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live
   java.runtime.name: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment
   java.runtime.version: 1.6.0_18-b07
   java.specification.name: Java Platform API Specification
   java.specification.vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
   java.specification.version: 1.6
   java.vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
   java.vendor.url: http://java.sun.com/
   java.vendor.url.bug: http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
   java.version: 1.6.0_18
   java.vm.info: mixed mode
   java.vm.name: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
   java.vm.specification.name: Java Virtual Machine Specification
   java.vm.specification.vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
   java.vm.specification.version: 1.0
   java.vm.vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
   java.vm.version: 16.0-b13
   os.arch: amd64
   os.name: Windows Vista
   os.version: 6.0
   path.separator: ;
   sun.arch.data.model: 64
   sun.boot.class.path: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\resources.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\rt.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\sunrsasign.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\jsse.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\jce.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\charsets.jar;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\classes
   sun.boot.library.path: C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin
   sun.cpu.endian: little
   sun.cpu.isalist: amd64
   sun.desktop: windows
   sun.io.unicode.encoding: UnicodeLittle
   sun.java.launcher: SUN_STANDARD
   sun.jnu.encoding: Cp1252
   sun.management.compiler: HotSpot 64-Bit Server Compiler
   sun.os.patch.level: Service Pack 2
   user.country: US
   user.language: en
   user.timezone: Asia/Calcutta
   user.variant:
===== ===== =====
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Re: pressure shapes dont work even in latest release 008

Postby Nicolas on Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:51:17 GMT

@Nirmal, @Karl

I changed the way jpen resolves the tablet input device type. Now it should detect the '3 buttons stylus pen (pressure)' as a stylus by default (instead of cursor). The new jpen-2.jar is here:
http://jpen.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ ... vision=228

If you want to try it on Alchemy you have to copy the new jpen-2.jar to the Alchemy program directory and launch Alchemy using the following command (instead of calling Alchemy.exe directly):
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java -classpath jpen-2.jar;Alchemy.exe -Djava.library.path=lib org.alchemy.core.Alchemy


If the new jpen-2.jar loads without problems, Alchemy will output:
---
...
Feb 10, 2010 2:30:45 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: loading JPen 2-100209 JNI library: jpen-2-2-64 ...
Feb 10, 2010 2:30:45 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: jpen-2-2-64 loaded
Java Version: 1.6.0_18
Platform: Windows Vista
OS Version: 6.0
Architecture: amd64
Language: en
Country: US
---
instead of:
---
...
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: loading JNI library: jpen-2-2-64 ...
Feb 9, 2010 11:50:13 AM jpen.provider.NativeLibraryLoader$4 run
INFO: jpen-2-2-64 loaded
Java Version: 1.6.0_18
Platform: Windows Vista
OS Version: 6.0
Architecture: amd64
Language: en
Country: US
---

@crowline

Please let us know what you get on jpen "Status Report", it will give us clues about what is happening inside jpen. Remember to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH before running the jpen demo. See instructions here: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/j ... title=Demo

Cheers!
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